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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- This is one fucked up episode btw... ...i got confused. Did anyone else get confused to? I dont even know where to start :( |
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| one of the most mind-fuck episodes Ive seen in my whole anime history, and one of the few episodes of my whole anime history that made my head spin |
| Another great episode. Though it technically didn't contribute to the main storyline, it did at least show us how Vincents mind works, or at least his imagination when it comes to dreams. It goes well with what many believe dreams are for: to show you what you think would never happen in life. |
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| That... was intense. My mind is totally expended from this ep |
| My mind is totally fucked. This is the most fucked up episode in anime history. |
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| So uh, what happened? A dream? An attack from another Proxy? |
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| Great episode. portraying Vincent's fears of what might happen and how he wishes things to be. |
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| Another brilliant episode, I love it when a story is based on things like DID. |
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| A dream.... |
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| *Mindfucked* |
| I'm scared and disturbed... was that just a dream or was that some Proxy? |
anciah said: I liked the part of Vincent being together with Re-l. Is Daedalus really a bro of Re-l or is it just in Vincent's dream ? It's just in Vincent's dream or as Swan would say the past or the reality that he wants to have for himself. |
| "We practice selective annihilation of mayors and government officials, for example, to create a vacuum, then we fill that vacuum. As popular war advances, peace is closer" |
| the fuck? it was weird seeing Vincent as a noble. |
| Wow. That got my head cracking. Interesting and confusing episode. So who's Swan anyway? Never saw her before. |
emp2907 said: Wow. That got my head cracking. Interesting and confusing episode. So who's Swan anyway? Never saw her before. Swan is revealed by the episode's end as being also a Proxy. |
| "We practice selective annihilation of mayors and government officials, for example, to create a vacuum, then we fill that vacuum. As popular war advances, peace is closer" |
| I was hoping this was more than just a proxy attack/dream sequence, so I was slightly disappointed by the ending, but still a great episode. |
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| Nah, if you think about it the episode isn't that much of a mindfucker.... still a great one ;] LoL. Reveals the secret about split personalities. In an exaggerated way.... |
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| Because the last episode totally wasn't weird enough. |
| Loved it. Vincent in another suits and outlooks. Who doesn't not want to be inside Re-L? And I laughed out loud because of Spanish dub, when Ergo Proxy cried at the end of the dream. http://www.mediafire.com/?mmoewzyzrht <---- Scene here. Enjoy it! |
| It's a coincidence that my psychology class is studying dissociative identity disorder and this episode of Ergo Proxy includes said disorder. Very interesting episode and just like everyone has said.... very confusing. @_@;; |
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| So i'm guessing he was being mind fucked by another proxy? And the proxy was revealing to Vincent what his own subconscious was fearing? |
| Seemed another proxy attack to me, this time to Vincent conscience. He just understands it when he remember that re-l didn't had a pendent. I agree with you, very confusing, a episode that need to be re-watched. |
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| Well it's clear each time a strange world or situation comes up that it is the work of a Proxy so I'm no longer confused at the start of the episode. This certainly helps in trying to deduce what's going on in the episode but this one was very strange nonetheless. I managed to figure out that the doctor was the Proxy but I didn't really understand her intentions or methods until the very end. |
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| Someone please call 911, my mind was just brutally raped!!! |
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| I loved how crazy this episode was XD. Note to self: Every weird episode in Ergo Proxy is a mindfuck or another proxy 030. Love this series! Aww, Real and Vince becoming fiances <3 |
| Whut. D: |
| Where do i even begin to ask questions? Another Proxy invade Vincents brain, inputs thoughts on killing Re-l and the two pendents act like some mind tranfer thing.....AWWWW, tell me it was all in Vincent's thoughts! |
| First i was "WTF is going on??" O_O then after Vincent said that Swan was also a Proxy i knew that they were still on the ship and this was just another illusion (>.<)" |
| Ummm... I may have to schedule an appointment with my therapist after this one... I wasn't sure what to expect after episode 19, but this puts my head into just the right spin to accept... well... just about whatever comes next! : ) I must say, series that hurt my brain because I'm trying to figure out what happened are waaaaaay better than series that hurt my brain because of frenetic girl-fight punchout laugh-riot upskirt car chases.. although, there's a place for that :3= |
| Wow, it was confusing along the way but at the end I thought was great mindfuck! LOL As if the last episode was not enough to remind of the other films, this reminded in turn of John Cusack's 2003 film,"Identity" where Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID) is the key element of the plot. |
| You see there's no need to wonder where your god is, Coz he's right here! ...and he's fresh out of mercy. |
| I guess that was Vince's premonition or a dream caused by the fear of being betrayed. |
fukushi said: I guess that was Vince's premonition or a dream caused by the fear of being betrayed. Pino has somekind of premonition too on 19 I guessed that was caused by a proxy but, no one appeared after all... confusing :p |
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tofei said: Wow, it was confusing along the way but at the end I thought was great mindfuck! LOL As if the last episode was not enough to remind of the other films, this reminded in turn of John Cusack's 2003 film,"Identity" where Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID) is the key element of the plot. Do you recommend that movie? |
fukushi said: I guess that was Vince's premonition or a dream caused by the fear of being betrayed. THat's deep. |
| I read in the discussion on episode 19 that someone was glad they had reviews so they were prepared to deal with the plot twists. I have heard that Ergo Proxy starts out good but fizzles out by the end. I wonder if episode 19 was the start of the end, because I didn't like that one or this one. |
| And lsot interest again... |
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| Totally mindscrewed! But nonetheless, a very great episode!! Was really lost when Lil/Vince kept on switching personalities until Vincent knew that Swan is a another proxy which I refused to believe before it was revealed coz the events felt plausible for the storyline. Also, this ep showed Vincent's fear and desires. :) |
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