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kikomascado

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My issue isn't only with translating itself. It's also about implementing it. I'll remind you that this game started as a fun project I did for a few days/weeks before it exploded. It doesn't have language management. Most "system" text is hardcoded, and dialogues are in game objects, I cannot "give them" to anyone for now.
"Them" being the dialogue or the game objects? Because you don't need to give the whole files to people, just a .csv file with the text, and then implement it on the game.
Also, I don't know why people demonize automatic translator. Of course human translated is way better, but there's lot of H mangas for example that I could only read because of MTL, since no one wanted to do it.
 
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My issue isn't only with translating itself. It's also about implementing it. I'll remind you that this game started as a fun project I did for a few days/weeks before it exploded. It doesn't have language management. Most "system" text is hardcoded, and dialogues are in game objects, I cannot "give them" to anyone for now.
Isn't that ironic (and kind of normal). You develop a fun project or cool tool (for work). It then becomes an established standard -- which sucks the fun out of it as you now must support it from cradle to grave.

For those asking for different languages, this is quick read on where a Developer would prioritize their translation efforts -- by sheer metrics:

( top 25 - they include first and secondary language for the totals )
1. English (1,456 million speakers)
2. Mandarin (1,138 million speakers)
3. Hindi (610 million speakers)
4. Spanish (559 million speakers)
5. French (310 million speakers)
6. Modern Standard Arabic (274 million speakers)
7. Bengali (273 million speakers)
8. Portuguese (264 million speakers)
9. Russian (255 million speakers)
10. Urdu (232 million speakers)
11. Indonesian (199 million speakers)
12. German (133 million speakers)
13. Japanese (123 million speakers)
...

I think it's okay that Le Stag doesn't translate it. He's covering most around 1.5B folks. Plus his LOE to abstract his strings from the object, totally not worth it.

Lesson learned, maybe his next project will leverage LANG files ... or not. Again LOE. If he did, he would only need to focus on the classic western languages (due to tech gear), it would have nearly 3B folks. Add in Mandarin & Japanese, it would be close to 4.5B. And that's a substantial number of folks on this hurdling rock.
 

kikomascado

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Isn't that ironic (and kind of normal). You develop a fun project or cool tool (for work). It then becomes an established standard -- which sucks the fun out of it as you now must support it from cradle to grave.

For those asking for different languages, this is quick read on where a Developer would prioritize their translation efforts -- by sheer metrics:

( top 25 - they include first and secondary language for the totals )
1. English (1,456 million speakers)
2. Mandarin (1,138 million speakers)
3. Hindi (610 million speakers)
4. Spanish (559 million speakers)
5. French (310 million speakers)
6. Modern Standard Arabic (274 million speakers)
7. Bengali (273 million speakers)
8. Portuguese (264 million speakers)
9. Russian (255 million speakers)
10. Urdu (232 million speakers)
11. Indonesian (199 million speakers)
12. German (133 million speakers)
13. Japanese (123 million speakers)
...

I think it's okay that Le Stag doesn't translate it. He's covering most around 1.5B folks. Plus his LOE to abstract his strings from the object, totally not worth it.

Lesson learned, maybe his next project will leverage LANG files ... or not. Again LOE. If he did, he would only need to focus on the classic western languages (due to tech gear), it would have nearly 3B folks. Add in Mandarin & Japanese, it would be close to 4.5B. And that's a substantial number of folks on this hurdling rock.
I don't think the most spoken languages of the world would be similar to the most spoken languages on these porn games community.
For what I saw on other projects, Russian seems to be one of the most popular languages on these things, and brazilian portuguese have good numbers as well, despite both of them being on the low end of this top 10.
Mandarin I also see, but japanese I think it's rarer, probably too busy playing their own VNs... Hahaha
 

HoM11

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I don't think the most spoken languages of the world would be similar to the most spoken languages on these porn games community.
For what I saw on other projects, Russian seems to be one of the most popular languages on these things, and brazilian portuguese have good numbers as well, despite both of them being on the low end of this top 10.
Mandarin I also see, but japanese I think it's rarer, probably too busy playing their own VNs... Hahaha
Now someone needs to get a grant and conduct a proper research on national and linguistic representation in adult games community.
 

Le Stag

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"Them" being the dialogue or the game objects? Because you don't need to give the whole files to people, just a .csv file with the text, and then implement it on the game.
Also, I don't know why people demonize automatic translator. Of course human translated is way better, but there's lot of H mangas for example that I could only read because of MTL, since no one wanted to do it.
I'll have to move the dialogues to a file, then back again. That requires developing the system around it, which is not the top priority right now. ;)

That will definitely be done in the end though. To be honest, I've even started it just a bit, you can, in theory, have the home screen in french already.
 
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I don't think the most spoken languages of the world would be similar to the most spoken languages on these porn games community.
For what I saw on other projects, Russian seems to be one of the most popular languages on these things, and brazilian portuguese have good numbers as well, despite both of them being on the low end of this top 10.
Mandarin I also see, but japanese I think it's rarer, probably too busy playing their own VNs... Hahaha
there are many creators from Russia, not recipients of content (especially paid content)

LeStag - you are making a great game, don't waste your resources (time, energy) on language projects :)
 

kikomascado

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there are many creators from Russia, not recipients of content (especially paid content)

LeStag - you are making a great game, don't waste your resources (time, energy) on language projects :)
From what I've seen some of the biggest reasons there's not much russian "payers" is because they can't use Patreon and SubscribeStar, but they use Boosty if available.
Regardless of it, being a language spoken for many players, free or not, maybe having it could act as advertisement for a lot of nee players?
Not saying it should be done, as translations need a lot of work, just saying what I observed in here.
 

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Any creampie in girlfriend's pussy? If so which relationship (sub or very sub) and witch stage? Thanks anyone that will may help <3
 

manXone

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And last question, Anyone knows if there will be footjob (or somenthing like show feet telling that we only desearve those) in this game in future (or maybe if i have missed them already :'D) Thanks again <3
 

Ronjonsurf69

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I have a request for the dev or anyone who wants to do this. A suggestion if you will, I propose an entirely new game. Featuring Laura which we've all known to grow to love. if you've played this much of the game you can agree the dev has a talent for writing, for Laura's character the girlfriend in this game.

I would like a new visual novel in renpy engine to keep it simple, sure can use AI art even though regular art would be better I know it's time and cost effective for the lazyish. Anyways! The main draw and call for this game with Laura (or a different girl) is to be without cheating whatsoever. None.

I know this may come as a shock to you, but maybe just maybe for those of us that don't want to continue on this more degen what's the new fetish path? We take a turn and dive into a what if side story perhaps, where you don't in fact share Laura (or your gf in this new game) you have a day to day life where you go to work, text a little here and there have nice scenes in the game and buy new outfits for your gf. Have dinner dates, movies. You know like a normal style relationship.

So why am I asking for something so vanilla? Well a lot of the time vanilla is refreshing after something so out there and extreme you don't know what will happen next, probably won't want what happens next, just want a return to norm. So we give fans of Laura and the Dev's writing of her personality a chance to shine a new game! You guys might be addicted to Laura, constantly craving something more. Where is the new update always coming back to check this thread. Might lost interest in this specific type of game, and see it's limitations of just being a phone game. I think it is done, it is something to just pass the time, but in the end it is a type of dating simulator. Hentai adult game.

Tldr; We give a chance to shine with the devs writing on another style of game. An alternative route with Laura more vanilla. Or just another girl.
 
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HoM11

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I have a request for the dev or anyone who wants to do this. A suggestion if you will, I propose an entirely new game. Featuring Laura which we've all known to grow to love. if you've played this much of the game you can agree the dev has a talent for writing, for Laura's character the girlfriend in this game.

I would like a new visual novel in renpy engine to keep it simple, sure can use AI art even though regular art would be better I know it's time and cost effective for the lazyish. Anyways! The main draw and call for this game with Laura (or a different girl) is to be without cheating whatsoever. None.

I know this may come as a shock to you, but maybe just maybe for those of us that don't want to continue on this more degen what's the new fetish path? We take a turn and dive into a what if side story perhaps, where you don't in fact share Laura (or your gf in this new game) you have a day to day life where you go to work, text a little here and there have nice scenes in the game and buy new outfits for your gf. Have dinner dates, movies. You know like a normal style relationship.

So why am I asking for something so vanilla? Well a lot of the time vanilla is refreshing after something so out there and extreme you don't know what will happen next, probably won't want what happens next, just want a return to norm. So we give fans of Laura and the Dev's writing of her personality a chance to shine a new game! You guys might be addicted to Laura, constantly craving something more. Where is the new update always coming back to check this thread. Might lost interest in this specific type of game, and see it's limitations of just being a phone game. I think it is done, it is something to just pass the time, but in the end it is a type of dating simulator. Hentai adult game.

Tldr; We give a chance to shine with the devs writing on another style of game. An alternative route with Laura more vanilla. Or just another girl.
Sorry, but Le Stag already promised a fantasy spin-off "Netorase Scrolls". He said Todd is working on it and the mountains are done (you can climb them). Then he'd obviously have to release it on current and future consoles, including Nintendo Dom and Nintendo Sub, quantum phones, fridges and roombas. Then make a Special edition (16 times the details), Anniversary edition, Legendary Edition, VR edition. Then open a mod store (I know some of you want Laura with giant tits and ass).
So all in all, I'm afraid he's gonna be too busy.
 

HoM11

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I have a request for the dev or anyone who wants to do this. A suggestion if you will, I propose an entirely new game. Featuring Laura which we've all known to grow to love. if you've played this much of the game you can agree the dev has a talent for writing, for Laura's character the girlfriend in this game.

I would like a new visual novel in renpy engine to keep it simple, sure can use AI art even though regular art would be better I know it's time and cost effective for the lazyish. Anyways! The main draw and call for this game with Laura (or a different girl) is to be without cheating whatsoever. None.

I know this may come as a shock to you, but maybe just maybe for those of us that don't want to continue on this more degen what's the new fetish path? We take a turn and dive into a what if side story perhaps, where you don't in fact share Laura (or your gf in this new game) you have a day to day life where you go to work, text a little here and there have nice scenes in the game and buy new outfits for your gf. Have dinner dates, movies. You know like a normal style relationship.

So why am I asking for something so vanilla? Well a lot of the time vanilla is refreshing after something so out there and extreme you don't know what will happen next, probably won't want what happens next, just want a return to norm. So we give fans of Laura and the Dev's writing of her personality a chance to shine a new game! You guys might be addicted to Laura, constantly craving something more. Where is the new update always coming back to check this thread. Might lost interest in this specific type of game, and see it's limitations of just being a phone game. I think it is done, it is something to just pass the time, but in the end it is a type of dating simulator. Hentai adult game.

Tldr; We give a chance to shine with the devs writing on another style of game. An alternative route with Laura more vanilla. Or just another girl.
In all seriousness, though, without trying to belittle vanilla taste, I don't think a lot of people would find an idea of a game, that you described, interesting. In general people want conflict, progress, goals achieved, change or choice. Even some pure vanilla games out there either have multiple possible LI's to give players some choice, or they end when MC wins over their LI — thus they focus on a goal and progress. If the game starts with Laura and MC already in a vanilla relationship, there is kinda nowhere for them to go. Going to work, on dates and having occasional vanilla sex with your established GF in a videogame gets stale pretty quickly, if that is pretty much the entire gameplay (at least IMO). It's just not close enough to a real life experience to be interesting for long. If I have to spend 10 minutes going to a store IRL, without any music or anything, it won't be interesting, but I wouldn't really get bored. Now imagine walking a boring street for 10 minutes in a videogame, without anything happening. It would be a nightmare.
I do appreciate Le Stag giving us vanilla conversations with Laura as a break in between more degenerate stuff, because it shows that there's more to her and MC's relationship than watching her get fucked by other men (even though she looks absolutely wonderful in the process), listening to her describe how much she enjoys that (even though it's making me very happy) and "reclaiming" her. It makes kinky stuff all the sweeter. But I can't really see it being the main focus of the game.
 
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idkmanerally

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In all seriousness, though, without trying to belittle vanilla taste, I don't think a lot of people would find an idea of a game, that you described, interesting.
even the people suggesting the vanilla routes wouldn't find them interesting. if they wanted to play vanilla games, there are plenty on the site. yet they always find themselves in NTR/NTS threads requesting vanilla routes.

why? i think these posters are turned on by NTR/NTS, play the games, then feel some shame/guilt after. then they come to the thread and say "hmmmm pretty good game, i just wish it was a vanilla game without all this sharing/cheating nonsense," perhaps they are not even fully aware that if the sharing/cheating was removed, they would've skipped playing the game in the first place.
 

HoM11

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even the people suggesting the vanilla routes wouldn't find them interesting. if they wanted to play vanilla games, there are plenty on the site. yet they always find themselves in NTR/NTS threads requesting vanilla routes.

why? i think these posters are turned on by NTR/NTS, play the games, then feel some shame/guilt after. then they come to the thread and say "hmmmm pretty good game, i just wish it was a vanilla game without all this sharing/cheating nonsense," perhaps they are not even fully aware that if the sharing/cheating was removed, they would've skipped playing the game in the first place.
I wouldn't go that far with the motivation assumptions. I think it's completely normal and understandable to see a character you really like and just wish that they were in a different setting. I myself have seen enough characters that I liked and thought "man, I wish you could have a mmf threesome with that girl" or "this girl looks so nice, if only it wasn't forced/humiliation/sleazy leechers stuff".
 

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I know this may come as a shock to you, but maybe just maybe for those of us that don't want to continue on this more degen what's the new fetish path? We take a turn and dive into a what if side story perhaps, where you don't in fact share Laura (or your gf in this new game) you have a day to day life where you go to work, text a little here and there have nice scenes in the game and buy new outfits for your gf. Have dinner dates, movies. You know like a normal style relationship.
bro just stop self inserting so hard plz ur legit just asking for real life. like if you want this you don't need to ask for a dev to make it just go do it.
 

idkmanerally

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I wouldn't go that far with the motivation assumptions. I think it's completely normal and understandable to see a character you really like and just wish that they were in a different setting. I myself have seen enough characters that I liked and thought "man, I wish you could have a mmf threesome with that girl" or "this girl looks so nice, if only it wasn't forced/humiliation/sleazy leechers stuff".
this would make sense to me if the game wasn't literally called "netorase phone". no one should stumble on this game and be surprised and disappointed when there's netorase involved.

it's like watching a movie called "Texas Chainsaw Massacre" and saying "wow that was a good movie i just wish the characters had a happy vacation instead of all the chainsaw massacring, maybe the director could make a sequel where it's about a happy trip instead. maybe leatherface can bake the teens a cake"
 

kikomascado

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Maybe if it was an spin-off focused on Ashley or Tara, it could be a more vanilla setting, but giving another game to Laura wouldn't make much sense in my opinion...
 

HoM11

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this would make sense to me if the game wasn't literally called "netorase phone". no one should stumble on this game and be surprised and disappointed when there's netorase involved.

it's like watching a movie called "Texas Chainsaw Massacre" and saying "wow that was a good movie i just wish the characters had a happy vacation instead of all the chainsaw massacring, maybe the director could make a sequel where it's about a happy trip instead. maybe leatherface can bake the teens a cake"
Well, I was specifically referring to the motivation behind wanting something different for a character and not making assumptions more complex than they need to be. Compared to making such a request when the direction for a game is clearly established.

With the "Texas Chainsaw Massacre", yes, that would indeed be silly. But I have stumbled upon quite popular opinions in the vein of "man, I'd gladly watch a full comedy movie of just these two characters. They rub off each other so well", while the original movie is not a comedy.

I was going to say that I didn't really feel "surprise and disappointment" in OP's message, aside from calling Laura's actions "cheating". More like "hey, this is cool but I'd also like something different". But then I took a look at his posting history and found that he was behind this "gem":
I'm gonna keep it real with you guys. The only time multiple guys is ok in hentai is when you use shadow clone jitsu and all the guys are technically yourself.
Among other stuff. So, yeah...
 
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Ronjonsurf69

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You guys seem to be forgetting something. Laura and MC had a normal relationship in this game until one day (after the previous year of being together) mc confesses that he has a sharing kink.

What I'm saying is Laura does indeed have a personality behind all the "ok let's try this kink, do you like it huh? What if I do a little more?" With or without your permission and some flavor text= the different dominant and sub routes in the game.

Ok so the argument is being made that if I want, I'm just asking for real life. I can't say that it's not possible, but it is difficult to relationship in today's day and age. What I described might be something of how relationships worked in the good old days. Less phone, scratch the netorase. Keep the Laura writing behind what's going on.

Sure I can write up a romantic novel myself and put it in a video game. It was a bad post I guess to mention, as most people are satisfied with just a nts/ ntr game. Sure it is exciting in a way or else I wouldn't be here, but as I said before we have already done the sharing. What's left now is more degen kinks, probably feet in sub route. A few months from now oops creampied, lick it out of me.

I'm trying to get to the meat of the character Laura. What if you actually had the option to not say you are into sharing, and had a vanilla game with her. Is that not something you are interested in? Hmm I guess not, I guess you all just wanna be cucks forever idk.
 
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